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Znaczenie prędkości okrętu

: 2004-05-10, 13:35
autor: MiKo
Takie mi się przypadkiem w sieci znalazło:

"The most important and certainly the most dramatic incident derived from the solution of the Japanese 1930 Naval Code was a message reporting the Nagato's post-modernization trials in 1936. We were fortunate enough to intercept the message and obtain a solid translation. The Nagato's speed was better than 26 knots-the same as that of the four Kongo-class battle cruisers. There was no doubt as to the correctness of this information. By inference, this was the prospective speed of the modernized Mutsu and minimum speed for the new Japanese battleships of the Yamato-class. This information created consternation in the highest echelons of the Navy Department, because the Mutsu-class had been believed good for only 23-1/2 knots, and our new battleships (then in blueprint stage) were going to have a speed of only 24 knots. The information was referred to the General Board and as a result the maximum speed for battleships North Carolina and Washington was raised to 27 knots; for later battleships the maximum speed was raised to 28 knots. The twelve battleships of our new building program were thus given a superiority in speed over the Japanese battleships.** Unfortunately, it proved impossible to get COMINT information on the tonnage, speed, or main-battery caliber of the Yamato-class of ships. The Japanese never sent this information by radio."

http://www.corax.org/revisionism/docume ... rh149.html

: 2004-05-10, 13:37
autor: karol
błe, barbarzyński

Re: Znaczenie prędkości okrętu

: 2004-05-10, 14:21
autor: Gość
MiKo pisze:Takie mi się przypadkiem w sieci znalazło:

"The most important and certainly the most dramatic incident derived from the solution of the Japanese 1930 Naval Code was a message reporting the Nagato's post-modernization trials in 1936. We were fortunate enough to intercept the message and obtain a solid translation. The Nagato's speed was better than 26 knots-the same as that of the four Kongo-class battle cruisers. There was no doubt as to the correctness of this information. By inference, this was the prospective speed of the modernized Mutsu and minimum speed for the new Japanese battleships of the Yamato-class. This information created consternation in the highest echelons of the Navy Department, because the Mutsu-class had been believed good for only 23-1/2 knots, and our new battleships (then in blueprint stage) were going to have a speed of only 24 knots. The information was referred to the General Board and as a result the maximum speed for battleships North Carolina and Washington was raised to 27 knots; for later battleships the maximum speed was raised to 28 knots. The twelve battleships of our new building program were thus given a superiority in speed over the Japanese battleships.** Unfortunately, it proved impossible to get COMINT information on the tonnage, speed, or main-battery caliber of the Yamato-class of ships. The Japanese never sent this information by radio."

http://www.corax.org/revisionism/docume ... rh149.html

A jaka z tego konkluzja wynika?
Bo to, ze US Battleszipy obsysaja to ja wiem.

Re: Znaczenie prędkości okrętu

: 2004-05-10, 14:24
autor: SmokEustachy
Anonymous pisze:
MiKo pisze:Takie mi się przypadkiem w sieci znalazło:
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http://www.corax.org/revisionism/docume ... rh149.html

A jaka z tego konkluzja wynika?
Bo to, ze US Battleszipy obsysaja to ja wiem.
To ja bylem

: 2004-05-10, 14:47
autor: karol
złośnik :roll:

: 2004-06-05, 10:22
autor: Humanch
Ciekawe kiedy ta "wlasciwa" prawda wyjdzie na wierzch, bo trudno tu dowierzac "oficjalnym" zrodlom amerykanskim, skoro inne "przeciekowe" publikacje pisza co innego. Przydalby sie tu ktos z japonskiego mostka pilnujacy "predkosciomierza" :) . Ci niestety (raczej) na dnie.

Re: Znaczenie prędkości okrętu

: 2004-06-08, 12:24
autor: radar1
MiKo pisze:Takie mi się przypadkiem w sieci znalazło:

"The most important and certainly the most dramatic incident derived from the solution of the Japanese 1930 Naval Code was a message reporting the Nagato's post-modernization trials in 1936. We were fortunate enough to intercept the message and obtain a solid translation. The Nagato's speed was better than 26 knots-the same as that of the four Kongo-class battle cruisers. There was no doubt as to the correctness of this information. By inference, this was the prospective speed of the modernized Mutsu and minimum speed for the new Japanese battleships of the Yamato-class. This information created consternation in the highest echelons of the Navy Department, because the Mutsu-class had been believed good for only 23-1/2 knots, and our new battleships (then in blueprint stage) were going to have a speed of only 24 knots. The information was referred to the General Board and as a result the maximum speed for battleships North Carolina and Washington was raised to 27 knots; for later battleships the maximum speed was raised to 28 knots. The twelve battleships of our new building program were thus given a superiority in speed over the Japanese battleships.** Unfortunately, it proved impossible to get COMINT information on the tonnage, speed, or main-battery caliber of the Yamato-class of ships. The Japanese never sent this information by radio."

http://www.corax.org/revisionism/docume ... rh149.html
jakies 3-4 tyg. temu użyłem tego argumentu w dyskusji z Nalą, prędkośc oznacza elastycznośc, kosztem opancerzenia. NC i tak rzutem na taśme dostała 406-stki, więc duzo się działo przy jej projektowaniu. Moze dlatego Nala ocenia ten typ najgorzej ze wszystkich szybkich Am. OL.
Mam nadzieję że Nala przeczyta ten post